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www.amazon.2db.com.pl - Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac Special Media Edition
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List Price: $499.95
Our Price: $159.99
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Manufacturer: Microsoft Software
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Binding: DVD-ROM
Brand: Microsoft
EAN: 0882224526531
Feature: Streamlined user interface runs natively on both Intel- and PowerPC-based Macs
Format: DVD-ROM
Is Autographed: 0
Is Memorabilia: 0
Label: Microsoft Software
Manufacturer: Microsoft Software
Model: 45586G
Platform: Macintosh
Publisher: Microsoft Software
Release Date: 2008-01-15
Studio: Microsoft Software
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Features
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Streamlined user interface runs natively on both Intel- and PowerPC-based Macs
Open XML file formats, the Office Art graphics engine, and other features that result in compatibility and file fidelity
Drag-and-drop digital asset management, batch conversion and tagging, and built-in archiving and backup capabilities help you manage over 100,000 files and hundreds of format types across multiple storage devices
Automator Actions for Workflows in Microsoft Office enables you to automate Office 2008 with more than 70 pre-defined actions built to simplify your work and extend your productivity
Includes: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Entourage, Microsoft Server Exchange Support, Automator Actions for Workflows in Microsoft Office
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Editorial Reviews:
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For media-savvy Mac users and professionals working with libraries of images, video, music, and digital assets, the reinvented Office 2008 for Mac experience with Expression Media achieve simple life digital asset management.
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Customer Rating:
Summary: Different look than the PC version
Comment: I had read mixed reviews about MS Office for the Mac and was reluctant to install it on my MacBook Pro. As it turns out, my fears were unfounded. It does have a different look than the Windows version and takes a little getting used to . I am pleasantly surprised with the speed of the applications as I had read that it was a bit sluggish. Not the case at all. It is very zippy and the few docs and spreadsheets that I've experimented with have migrated back and forth between my Mac and PC with no problems, so far. I'm not sure that it is worth buying, however, if you already have IWorks on your Mac, since you can export all of your files to a PC from the iWork applications. In the end, I'll probably use the Office suite for my work applications and iWork for my personal use.
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Summary: Just the same as, Just a new user-interface
Comment: From a user's standpoint, as I have used Microsoft Products since 1994, Microsoft Products have usability issues with office products. After I am used to using one product like Office 2004, I am hit with Office 2008. Differences between the two are as follows:
1) I have to pay for the upgrade, once again, to be able to open up the new word document format that the non-technical office personnel have purchased.
2) The menu changes for each release makes communicating about "how-to" format different for users who has different Word versions without the significant upgrades in features.
3) It all starts out from the blank document. Even with the "Document Elements" features, it's hard to conform to current official office formats. Further edits are required for all new features-based document embellishment.
4) New features are almost all of the Format features that were on the menu were moved to Format Palette; and those features were reduced to small "size" icons. It's hard to relate to icons and delays my "gotten used to" features.
5) Where are all the short-cuts "keys"?
After realizing some of the features are turned-off when first installed on the menu and toolbar, I turn try to toggle the toolbar. And realized the pop-up menu are still the same, just tweaked further to the "minimalist" style.
From a brand-new user's standpoint, I would imagine that this version of Microsoft Office is definitely useful. Except, even though the Document Element feature in the Word program looked great. When I clicked on the first document elements > Cover Pages > first choice, and started to edit some text file into the the document, and I realize the formatting doesn't quite fit with the cover page, in fact, the feature of the cover page is the "cool look" and there are no explanation on how to edit using this Cover Page style choice. There are no other help on how to change the cover page's format elements like the "year" and "title" or how to change it so that the flow of the text aren't underneath the cover page's text box. Further, I am having to deal with navigating a new completely-different-from-previous-version-menu-setup.
So, far it took me 30 minutes to find out what's changed from the older version. It will take me about another 30 more minutes to find out why the menu disappears on the format palette, and how to describe this to the co-workers at the office when the IT guys upgrade it to all the mac computers, "just-because."
Customer Rating:
Summary: Disappointing Performance and Lack of Configurability
Comment: I ordered the 2008 version of Office due to its Universal support in the hopes of improved performance over the 2004 version (which relies on Rosetta for non-Intel software versions). I frequently manipulate very large spreadsheets containing a mixture of data and formulae in Excel. To get an idea of the differences in performance, I timed a couple of tasks that I routinely do on my Mac Pro (2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors and 4 GB of RAM).
In the first test, I timed how long it took Excel to open a 15.6 MB Excel file containing a mixture of data and embedded formulae. In this test, it took the 2004 version 19 seconds to open the spreadsheet and the 2008 version significantly slower in 25.5 seconds.
In the second test, using two keys I sorted a 27 column by 6939 row spreadsheet with no embedded formalae. I found the 2004 version of Excel performed the task in 11 seconds and the 2008 slightly faster in 10.5 seconds.
In the third test, using three keys I sorted a 51 column by 6244 row spreadsheet with lots of embedded formulae. I found the 2004 version of Excel performed the task in 16 seconds and the 2008 version significantly slower in 21 seconds.
Beyond the performance differences, I was annoyed by several changes made to the 2008 version of Excel. First, the software no longer provides an indication of when it is working -- no hourglass, no stopwatch, etc. Thus while I'm waiting for half a minute for Excel to manipulate the spreadsheet I'm left wondering if it is really working or if I accidentally hit the "cancel" button. Second, the toolbars are not as configurable as the 2004 version. I like to have the "Standard", "Formatting" and "Formula" toolbars open. In the 2008 version I am not allowed to position the formula bar directly over the spreadsheet and I'm only allowed to have the Standard bar open directly over the spreadsheet. The 2008 version also added an extra menu line for "Sheets" "Charts" "SmartArt Graphics" and "WordArt" that I will never use yet cannot turnoff. The bottom-line is that with the 2008 version, I now have less usable space for my worksheets, less configurability than I previously did, am forced to make more mouse clicks and move the mouse pointer more thank I did with the 2004 version. While I mainly use Excel, I did note that the new version of Word also has the same toolbar issues that I noted for Excel.
Another annoyance -- though one-time -- is the number of very large updates that had to be downloaded to update the shipped software. While I didn't time these, I was able to install the software from the DVD in about 2 minutes. It took about 45 minutes to download and install all of the software updates.
Overall, I'm glad that I didn't un-install the 2004 versions of the Office applications as I think I'll continue to use them until support for the 2004 versions is dropped and I run into compatibility issues.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Highly Recommended!
Comment: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but, Microsoft Office 2008 for the mac, is a must buy if your even remotely interested in office suites.
I run a few different online businesses, as well as doing some consulting, freelance work, and other such practices. Microsoft office deeply changes how I function, and operate in the world. Talk about improved efficiency.
I'm honestly considering no longer buying the yearly iwork suites.
Some new features in MS Word:
Publishing Layout View (this lets you create brochures, flyers, etc, etc) Very easy. This is similar to using Apples Pages. You can get to this view by clicking file -> project gallery and choose one of those kinds of views like Flyers, or Newsletters.
Word's new "Publishing Layout" view lets you create documents off templates similar to those from pages. You can add new pictures just by dragging and dropping your data into the various placeholders found in the template.
Publication Templates - appears at the top of publishing layout view, and lets you change the document into a different type of template (such as a different newsletter) (you can also customize any template when you create a theme using your own pictures, and elements (so much easier than in pages!).
Document Elements - this lets you easily create table of contents, cover pages, Header, Footer, and Bibliographies, you can access these features when you are in Print Layout view.
Excel offers up some new features:
Ledger Sheet (brand new!) - these are preformatted sheets, that let you do things like balance checkbooks, create expense reports, and many other things. This is really cool, and almost pays for itself for buying 2008.
In the project gallery (my favorite office feature) when you have excel open, click Ledger Sheets (off on the left) and you can click Accounts, Budgets, Invoices, Lists, Portfolios, Reports.
If you click one of the ledgers with the green excel bar at the top, it is one of the new ledger features, and as such, already has data, formulas, etc.
Formula Builder - you can now create formulas step by step. You can search for what your trying to do, and you can also scroll through and see all the functions. This is great for when you know, but your not sure which function exactly.
When you double click the function, you then "build it" at the bottom, this is very easy.
Auto Complete Formula - This is similar to when your using dreamweaver in the code view, and start typing in html. In excel when you type = then a letter like S and it will auto complete to sum or show you other options that you can choose. This is very cool and helps to make sure you get the right syntax and the right command each time.
Powerpoint 2008 also has some great new features I will talk about here:
Powerpoint now has Themes which give your slide presentations a unified theme, so everything looks the same (fonts, colors, special effects), and even better, these "themes" translate into other office products (such as word)
You can also now create your own custom layouts inside of powerpoint, which lets you choose where you want your images, text, charts, etc.
Powerpoint now lets you share your presentations to iphoto (which you can then sync on your ipod/iphone) Basically it turns your presentations into images. This is great if you want to share you presentation with someone who does not have powerpoint, or if you prefer to not lug your laptop around, and prefer to just your ipod/iphone as your presentation device.
Entourage New Features:
You can now create to do lists (and flagging). When your in entourage, click To Do List (which is next to your calendar) and you can add stuff that you need to do, you can also set due dates.
From an email, you can choose if / when you want to follow up with the email and flag it by clicking (tomorrow, next week, or choose one on a certain date), you can also choose a reminder. (to remind you at a certain time)
If your not going to be at the office for a while, you can setup an automatic rule, that can automatically reply to your incoming emails, telling them that you are away, and you will be back ___ and you can contact someone else, or if its important, call me at this number ___
To set it up go to Tools -> then click on Rules. Give it a name, and set up the function.
When you get back, all you need to do is go to Tools -> rules -> and uncheck whatever you named the rule to stop it for now (you can always reenable by clicking that box)
My favorite new feature quite easily is Entourages My Day.app.
My Day lets you manage your to do lists, and your calendar (and you no do not have to have entourage running) it shows what you need to do, the timeline, it is so cool, and is another one of those lovely features that make this a no-brainer purchase. If you have an appointment later on in the day (say you have a meeting at 8), it will show at the top that you are "free until 8) which is such a nice feature. You can skip around to other days and see what you need to do, (or what you previously did). You can add new tasks (to do) from within the my day.app so you do not have to open up entourage to add a quick task.
Another great feature is the Calendar, which is now very useful, looks much better, and is more functional.
The main difference between Special media and the regular edition of 2008 is Expression Media 2 (which you will need to download from Microsoft's website) This is a very nice, high end organizational software to manage you digital files (including raw images) Search is very fast, and tagging is quick and easy. One of the benefits for me with using this software is the ability to create different contact sheets, and online photogalleries. If you do not currently have a program capable of managing your digital assets, you cannot go wrong with Expression media. It is very robust, and powerful. It does not (for me) replace my current workflow (Adobe Lightroom) but for the price, it is very much so worth it. I highly recommend it if your into digital photography, or even just image creation. I'm using it now to organize files that I create (opposed to digital photography), and it works very well. It increases productivity, is beautiful, and helps me keep track of everything very quickly.
In conclusion, my productivity has greatly increase since getting Microsoft Office. Entourage alone eliminates so much hassle, that in an of itself is worth getting. No longer do I need Mail.app addressbook, ical, stickies, all open at the same time. I can open up entourage, set my schedule, close it, and have my day.app open telling me what to do and when keeping me on track and on schedule.
The new features in word / excel / and powerpoint do give serious fight to the iwork suite. I look forward to the next office release, and the next iwork release (to see how apple fights some of these cool and exiting features)
Easily a 5 out of 5. The only downside to 2008 is you loose macros, and you loose VBA scripting. (but you can use applescript and automator, and VBA is supposed to be back soon, which will give us macros back).
Customer Rating:
Summary: A batch of nits to pick along the way...
Comment: As a "new" (actually rediscovered, having formerly used Mac systems at various times along the way, some versions of the Mac much longer than others, but enough to have previous experience) Mac user I looked forward to seeing what sort of experience Microsoft really delivers to users of that 'other' operating system. Certainly Microsoft has seen themselves poked fun of by the Mac vs. Vista TV commercials enough that a Microsoft product manager might have to ask themselves whether or not it really makes sense to release their products on the competing platform.
There are other ways of running Office on the Mac platform, including running in virtual machines/emulators and the like, but those methods just don't give a Mac user the native Mac experience and environment and many Mac users would reject the idea of anything less than a full-fledged Mac product anyway. Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac gives Mac users that full-fledged Mac experience by delivering current versions of the standard Office suite: Power Point, Word, Excel and Entourage (think "Outlook" if you are a PC user) and even Messenger for Mac.
Rather than bore readers of this review with lots of information that Amazon has conveniently listed on the product page, I'd like to take a few seconds to speak to issues and frustrations that users might experience and places where Microsoft could hopefully make some improvements along the way.
First, props (congratulations, praise, etc.) to Microsoft for a smooth installation process. Pop in the DVD disc, run the installer and zoom, you're on the way to having Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac installed. That said, I miss the level of customization that was offered in the Office 2004 install process. Not that the level of control for the custom install isn't complete enough, but with earlier versions the level of (granularity in) control was seemingly much greater than what is now offered. Regardless, the installation process was relatively smooth and pretty well idiot proof until... ah, there had to be an until didn't there ;-)
Yup, at the end of the install it was time to update the product. Anyone that has dealt with any Microsoft product knows to expect to have to update and patch the products. Office for the Mac is no exception in this area. Unfortunately, the update process on the Mac, at least when someone is working on installing SP1 for Office 2008, is far from perfect and could trip up an average user. Just in following through the installation and jumping into updating the product I was offered an update that would install SP1 for Office 2008 which I choose to attempt to install. Note I said attempt. The installation never completed properly when using the AutoUpdater, instead I had to go and manually download the service pack and then install it using a manual process. Once that was done, then I was able to use the AutoUpdater again and could finally download the patches that are required *after* SP1 is installed. With the problem installing SP1 via the AutoUpdater seemingly well known one might expect that Microsoft would have fixed the issue by now, but sadly the problem remains at the time I write this review.
Beyond the install issues with the basic product, there's another nit to pick on the install process for the Microsoft Expression Media features. Not in the install process really, but in the licensing process for same. Rather than prompting for licensing of the Expression Media during the install process the licensing is done separately through menu selections that are not all that intuitive. Anyone can eventually find the proper menu selection to get the task done, but why should someone installing the software really have to go find the menu entries? Why not offer users the ability to supply the license key during installation as they would with just about any other Microsoft product that they've ever (or would ever) install?
To take that complaint/concern just a little further, purchasers of Microsoft Office: Mac 2008 Special Media Edition for Digital Media Enthusiasts 'with Microsoft Expression Media' can obtain an update to Microsoft Expression Media 2 any time after June 1, 2008 simply by downloading it. After downloading that material and running the install process you would again be left to figure out what menu selection to use to license the product. Again, it's not impossible or all that difficult to find, but the menus are changed between the older Expression Media and newer Expression Media 2 so it's not as straight forward as it could be.
Office: Mac 2008 is a nice product but there is still room for improvement all around. Hopefully continued competition will help push Microsoft to keep making the product better.
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